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Aug 20 2018 S. Berliner, III 9:01 PM

Bad day - I KNEW I’d be embarrassed.  For sad “last” shots of the MB Clubhouse and the MB Station, see <http://sbiii.com/lirrcrr1.html#slsbrypl> and of the CRRofLI bridge, see <http://sbiii.com/lirrcrr3.html#crrbridg>.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved : A Spectacular 1924 Aerial of the Meadow Brook Hunt Club and Motor Parkway

Aug 20 2018 Roger A Price 8:05 PM

Howard,
Fascinating history of your beautiful Tucker.
Best of luck at Pebble Beach.  I’m sure you will look like a proud papa.
Rog

From The History of the Tucker 1044 (1948-Present) Updated: 8/19/2018

Aug 20 2018 Michael LaBarbera 7:25 PM

Aerial view looking NW toward Westbury from Hempstead Tpk by in Uniondale by the Coliseum. Over Stewart Avenue right to left and Merrick Ave top to bottom on an angle. LIMP structures west to east are Merrick Avenue Bridge, Newbridge Ave Bridge and Stewart Avenue Bridge. Train station is the Salisbury Station and the bridge that is still standing is the Central RR bridge west of the station (now filled in to its neck by the Meadowbrook Pkwy).  The building along Merrick was the Salisbury Links Country club and the Lake at Eisenhower is still there fed by the Meadowbrook brook. I do not know thats a good question if its a natural feed. The neighborhood north of Stewart Ave along today’s Salisbury Pk Drive was home to Elanor Roosevelt as a child. The 2 clusters of buildings were the Meadowbrook Club and the mast was its flagpole (guessing). I think date the picture to be 1924 after the Salisbury Clubhouse looks new and the debris field may be just that after its construction.

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved : A Spectacular 1924 Aerial of the Meadow Brook Hunt Club and Motor Parkway

Aug 20 2018 Jeffrey Levin 9:15 AM

Howard the car looks great! Best of luck at the show. We’re all looking forward to seeing the car and the awards when you return. Have fun.

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Aug 20 2018 Marc Alssid 8:38 AM

As everyone has previously posted, #1044 looks fabulous. I’m certain that next weekend at Pebble Beach will be a most memorable event for you, Roz and all the Tucker Family present. Very much looking forward to hearing your stories and seeing your photos from the Concours!

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Aug 19 2018 S. Berliner, III 9:59 PM

I forgot to ask if anyone else sees a horse running north to the left of the grandstand.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved : A Spectacular 1924 Aerial of the Meadow Brook Hunt Club and Motor Parkway

Aug 19 2018 S. Berliner, III 9:57 PM

Good one!  Absolutely nothing clicks (yet)!  There is no place where a major body of water lies directly NNE of the LIMP RoW.  I’d guess the original image was cut off there.  The RR station sure looks like the Central Branch’s Meadowbrook Station, which would make the middle-left-to-lower-right diagonal Whaleneck Road and the one beyond the station Post-cum-Merrick Avenue but nothing else jibes.  I give up (in disgust, knowing full well this will be a “Well, DUH!”).  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved : A Spectacular 1924 Aerial of the Meadow Brook Hunt Club and Motor Parkway

Aug 19 2018 Tim Ivers 8:40 PM

Looking northeast over the eastern Garden City and Salisbury area in 1932.
The buildings in the center are the Meadow Brook Hunt Club; to its right the Meadow Brook links.
In the distant right is the Coldstream Clubhouse on Merrick Avenue opposite the the lake (still there) in Salisbury Park.
Lower left shows a partial view of the Meadow Brook Polo Field grandstand.
The road running left to right across the very top is the LIMP, with the Merrick Avenue bridge visible at left and in the distant right is the bridge over Salisbury Park Drive, and the LIMP curve around Mrs. Ladenberg’s property, where Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt lived for a period of time.

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved : A Spectacular 1924 Aerial of the Meadow Brook Hunt Club and Motor Parkway

Aug 19 2018 Steve Lucas 5:36 PM

We’re over Westbury looking northeast. In addition to the LIMP, major roads include Stewart Avenue, Merrick Avenue and Bellmore Road (Newbridge Avenue). LIMP structures include the Meadowbrook Lodge, Merrick Ave. bridge, Bellmore Rd. bridge, and Stewart Ave. bridge. This section of the LIMP was part of the course for the 1908, 1909, and 1910 V. C. Races. The LIRR Central Branch bridge is still standing although hidden in the trees about 200 feet east of today’s Meadowbrook Pkwy.  The Salisbury Plains station can be seen just east of the bridge. Just south of the LIRR bridge is the Meadowbrook Club clubhouse. The rectangle building could be the stable. Along with the Meadowbrook Golf Club, you also have the Salisbury Golf Club. The estate of Emily Ladenburg (Oasis) can be seen in the upper right where future First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt lived as a youngster from 1888 to 1892. The Salisbury Plains station opened in 1923 and it looks fairly new so I’ll guess 1923 or 1924 for a date.

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved : A Spectacular 1924 Aerial of the Meadow Brook Hunt Club and Motor Parkway

Aug 19 2018 PAUL M DINATALE 3:29 PM

looks like the area of hillside ave west of the current meadowbrook pky (not in picture)  . there is a golf course noth of hillside ave and the old motor pkwy is east-west on the northern part of the golf course.

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved : A Spectacular 1924 Aerial of the Meadow Brook Hunt Club and Motor Parkway

Aug 19 2018 PAUL M DINATALE 3:20 PM

if i am the next winner of powerball i will start a Tucker automobile factory with a updated powertrain and design….dream on…..

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Aug 19 2018 Chris Heisig 2:31 PM

If a Tucker could talk 1044 would be saying ” Thankyou Howard I Feeeel Gooood !!!”

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Aug 19 2018 Chris Heisig 2:09 PM

If a Tucker could talk 1044 would be saying ” Thankyou Howard I Feeel Gooood !!!”

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Aug 19 2018 Steve Green 1:32 PM

Howie. . . . . . .Great story, and great restoration.  We (me and my Rambler buddies in California) can’t wait to see Tucker #1044 at Cars on the Avenues in Carmel, CA on Tuesday, Aug. 21st.  Hoping that you will have a great meet at the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance (on Aug. 26th). . . . . . . . . .

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Aug 19 2018 Philip Benincasa SR. 12:34 PM

A while back in one of my periodicals there was mentioned someone was trying to convert a Tucker into a convertible. I was just wondering if anyone has any info?
Just being curious.
____________________________________

Howard Kroplick

Here is a link to the controversial Tucker Convertible.
https://jalopnik.com/5653978/is-the-lost-tucker-convertible-a-fraud

From The History of the Tucker 1044 (1948-Present) Updated: 8/19/2018

Aug 19 2018 frank femenias 11:36 AM

This early aerial is in East Garden City over future runway 23 Mitchell Field looking NE, with Meadow Brook Hunt Club in the foreground. Tons of stuff in this amazing super-sharp aerial. Labeling everything would flood the photo with text.

Tree-lined Merrick Ave (Post Ave, Whaleneck Rd) and Stewart Ave cutting through future Eisenhower Park (Salisbury Park). Old Newbridge Ave (Salisbury Park Dr) once running through the park as well. Central RR also through the park. The former entrance to the Meadow Brook Hunt Club is curved just south of the RR bridge, making this photo’s date 1927-1937. This entrance would eventually be straightened out by 1938.

A few firsts here. This is the sharpest aerial view yet of the Central RR bridge (still standing). There appears to have once been a straight, diagonal roadway connecting the Club entrance at Merrick Ave to Salisbury Park Dr on the other side of the park. The RR track in the park once traveled over a culvert by the lake. This lake today is more than triple in size. Where’s the water coming from? Rare shot of the RR station off of Merrick Ave, and the Ladenburg oasis farm in the park. I cannot see her windmill nor the Meadow Brook racetrack in her backyard. It goes on and on…..

Motor Pkwy structures are Meadow Brook Lodge, Merrick Ave Bridge, Newbridge Ave Bridge, and Stewart Ave Bridge, all in plain sight! Rare view of the Meadow Brook lodge entrance ramp ascent in comparison to the parkway just behind it. 

1908 - 1910 VCR races used this section.

Salisbury Links, Eleanor Roosevelt, I give up

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved : A Spectacular 1924 Aerial of the Meadow Brook Hunt Club and Motor Parkway

Aug 19 2018 Richard Rosenblum 11:23 AM

Very exciting for your Tucker to be among this historic grouping!  Look forward to more great photos from this event.

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Aug 19 2018 LMK 10:21 AM

Fabulous examples . They’re still out there !

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Aug 19 2018 Art Kleiner 9:48 AM

East Meadow/Wesbury, looking northeast over Salisbury park, Meadow Brook Club
LIMP, Stewart Ave., Merrick (Whaleneck) Ave., Salisbury Park Road
Merrick Ave. Bridge, Bellmore Ave. Bridge, Salis. Park Dr./Wantagh Pkwy. Bridge
1908, 09, 10 Cup Races
Current bridge shown - Salis. Park Drive/Wantagh Pkwy., bridge; the train trestle leading into the Meadow Brook club still exists off of the Meadowbrook Parkway.
Central RR and its Salisbury Plains station
Salisbury Links Clubhouse, Meadow Brook Club
Salisbury Links, Meadow Brook Club Golf course
Future first lady - Eleanor Roosevelt who lived as a young girl on her father’s estate, Half Nirvana near the corner of Valentine’s Road and Salisbury Park Drive. 
Ladenberg Estate
Late 1920, early 1930s

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Aug 19 2018 Walt Gosden 9:47 AM

Hey Howard, Great to read this report. Les Shaffer was a good friend of mine. For decades we would speend a week together enjoying a vacation/car meet , the annual Franklin car gathering in Cazenovia, NY. Les also owned a beautiful 19332 Franklin Airman series 16A rumble seat coupe . Les liked the Tuckers ( he had two) because they used a air cooled engine made by Air Cooled motors of Liverpool , NY. That firm was run by Carl Doman a former engineer at the Franklin Company in Syracuse, NY which is just south of Liverpool, NY . The bottom of the Tucker should have a casting in it that says Franklin. Les loved his Franklin as his Tuckers and drive them often, they were never ever trailered. Les and I had some conversations (I should have taped but was still fairly young when Carl was alive) with Carl Doman who was active in the Franklin Club. Both men were very cordial and friendly, especailly Les. Carl Doman lived in Michigan as did his son Dave Doman who was a good friend of mine as well and spoke to me about his ad’s work at both Franklin and Air Cooled Motors.  and Dave was an engineer at Ford Motor Co.  Dave had a good collection of Franklins ranging from ca 1908 roadster to a 1932 club sedan. Another Franklin/Tucker friend was Bill Hamlin of California, he had two Tuckers as well and lived near the Ontario speedway in California where he would take the Tuckers as well as his Franklin sedan out on the track to see what they could do. Bill was an aerospace engineer and his “street rod” was a 1935 Reo flying cloud coupe that he put a souped up 1932 Franklin engine in and also a Columbia two speed rear end (these were most often installed in Auburns of the mid 1930s. ) Bill used to take great pride and laugh when he had his Reo at a stop light (exterior was all original did not give away it was repowered by the in line 6 Franklin air cooled engine)  and a street rodder in a heavily modified V8 Ford would pull up next to him and Bill would nod “you wanna race” the street rodder laughed until Bill out ran him and just as the Ford was thinking about pulling away Bill would engage the Columbia overdrive which gave it another set of gears and just walk his original Looking Reo coupe away by a great distance.
Anyway I have run on long enough.
Great news about your Tucker, I know you will have a great time at Pebble Beach , congratulations.

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